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wedge Specials
wedge Sex, Filth & Religion
wedge Stand up show recording
* This is very early stand up material.
wedge Debt Collector
wedge Iraqi debt
* 383 billion dollars
* Iraq is bankrupt, each Iraqi owes 16,000 dollars each, given that they earn $150 a year, would take them 112 years to pay off
* Debt comes from foreign loans, war reparations and broken business contracts
* $76 billion buying defence equipment
* Mark took a minibus to the Tower Thistle Hotel with a couple of corporately dressed ladies and offered a free trip to the Dsei exhibition in docklands.
* Gets a load of takers and asks for donations to help pay off Iraq's debt on the journey there. Raises £7.20.
* Also gets on the Docklands Light Railway and has a game of "Arms dealer" bingo and raises another £12.60.
* Organises a jumble sale, drops jumble bags all over London, but particularly with banks and companies that dealt with Iraq in the 1980's.
* After 3 weeks went and collected the bags
* The Saudi Arabian embassy didn't donate anything, neither did Kuwait.
* Speak with Joseph Stiglitz, Ex Vice-president of the world bank about "Odious debt". Both Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are trying to get money back from Iraq.
* Iraqi debt is traded on the market. After America invaded Iraq the price of their debt went up.
* Manage to bump into a debt trader with George, an Iraqi who is chained to Mark
* Debt price has gone from 8 cents to 28 cents.
* Mark goes to the Iraqi Rafidain Bank in London, Iraq's top bank, closed since 1991 and gives it a bit of a spruce up with flowers and a scrub down.
* Creditors are claiming £6 billion in debt from them and they are talking of selling themselves off to pay themselves back. Mark thinks it should be sold off to pay off debt, not pay creditors.
* Bank will get about 0.01 pence in the pound.
* Mark meets with HSBC's top advisor riding shotgun into Iraq. Asks him to sign a petition to cancel Iraq's debt.
* Or at least cancel the £100 million owed to his bank.
* Also asked him why he didn't leave any jumble out earlier.
* Mark turns to the companies that will profit from Iraq in the future. The UK's Iraq Industry working groups is meeting at the DTI.
* Mark puts Ali the collecting doll bloodied and bandaged, complete with camera and microphone outside the DTI entrance in an attempt to shock some delegates. The delegates leave by the rear exit.
wedge Ali is radio controlled on wheels so Mark could chase the delegates anyway. He collected £2.77
* With thanks to GEORGE DAVIES, NELLIE VEETMAN, NAOMI MEECHOU, SALLY FREEMAN, SAM FISHEYE (rest of credits unreadable)
* At Olympia there is a secret conference where big businesses are deciding how Iraq will be sliced up.
* Mark took along a cake in the shape of Iraq and attempt to give people a slice without much luck.
* Meets with one of the senior Americans running the meeting and he chatted for a while.
* Star speaker is Basil Al-Rahim, a businessman, director of MerchantBridge Holdings. Mark gets an interview with him.
* He says that all ownership has to passed down to the private sector.
* At the jumble sale they make £234.14 making a grand total of £283.62.
* If Iraq is to stand any chance the debt should be cancelled.
wedge Credits
* Justabout productions
* © Channel Four Television Corporation MMIII
wedge After School Arms Club
wedge Broadcast Monday 3rd April 2006 on Channel 4 at 8pm
* On Dispatches, Mark shows how a bunch of school students managed to broker thumb cuffs, a sting stick, a shock baton and a lethal weapon.
* Roughly 500,000 people a year are killed with small arms everything from guns to grenades.
* There are 640 million guns in circulation, 8 million more are added each year.
* Mark goes along to the London arms fair and gets a stress reliving foam grenade.
* Even countries with arms embargoes on them attend such as China
* In 2004 the British Government introduced new legislation to reduce arms dealing and brokering. Brokering is where somewhere arranges an arms deal, but the arms don't come through the UK.
* Unfortunately this legislation isn't working.
* Mark meets up with students from 2 schools, Lord Williams's school in Oxford, and Portlaiose Presentation School, Ireland. Average age 16
* They set up 2 companies, Williams Defence and Seachtar Associates
* Along with the brokering the students filmed their experiences to make this documentary.
wedge Step 1 - Network with other brokers
* Mark took Mick Ranger, an arms dealer along to meet the students and answer their questions.
* Mick has been in the trade 25 years and says he has moved over 100,000 small arms.
wedge Step 2 - Get brokering
* At Williams Defence they phone up and try to buy handcuffs for Egypt and ask if they need a license.
* Over a period of weeks they phone dozens of suppliers brokering items not covered by UK export controls.
* They also found that some EU countries have no brokerage laws so they could even broker small arms.
* They import to a fictitious client in the UK.
* Item 1 - thumb cuffs moved from Taiwan to the UK
wedge Commons select committee
* Mark was invited along to a select committee looking at the UK military list that requires export licensing. Whilst there he showed them the thumb cuffs.
* As it's a list it can never cover everything that could possibly be used for torture, what's required is a catch-all clause.
* Thumb-cuffs are not currently included, neither are wall cuffs or sting sticks.
* Sting sticks are brokered by the pupils from China to Albion, California where Doug Nunn, a human rights campaigner shows one to camera. It is then sent to Willams Defence in Oxford.
wedge Williams defence
* Like a medieval weapon, the sting stick is a pointed stick with barbs along it's length that can only be used for torture.
* Williams Defence head to London to meet some MPs.
* They meet Malcolm Wickes on college green, the minister in charge of arms export licensing and show him what they had procured. Wall cuffs from Poland, the sting stick.
* Roger Berry MP agrees they have found some loopholes and say they will try and get something done.
wedge Step 3 - Anything goes in Ireland
* Ireland does not have arms brokerage laws despite EU requirements
* At Portlaiose Presentation School Sister Barbara and her pupils run a human rights group
* They get brokering which is much freer than in Oxford
* Jim Loughran of Amnesty International tells them about Ireland's £5 billion arms trade which is uncontrolled.
* They find a stone throwing machine and try and import it for £5,000
* Manage to get one from Israel to Ireland. The Israeli dealer and his wife arrive to demonstrate the machine, try and pass it off as a manure dispersal tool for agricultural use.
* A comedian and a Nun may not make the most convincing arms dealers but they gave it a go while the students watch from a remote position.
* Turns out they didn't get a license to import it for the demonstration.
* The stone thrower is loaded with stones and demonstrated.
* They say it is just for warning people and is not lethal unless people get too close (within 12 metres).
* They say they could be exported as agricultural equipment.
* Mark has a go on it firing 200-300 stones in 20 seconds.
* Also try it close up to some targets which it damages quite badly
* The girls arrive on the scene to meet the dealer
* And Mark owns up as to what they are doing, showing how easily it is to broker arms.
* He says it could be used to fire sweets.
* They get angry and leave (obviously not going to get a sale here).
wedge Step 4 - Broker abroad and get away with it
* Ellie and Michele from Williams Defence go to Italy where there are no brokerage laws
* There is a loophole in UK law which means that the girls can legally deal in arms if abroad.
* There are 5 European countries with no brokerage laws; Ireland, Cyprus, Portugal, Greece and Luxembourg. Italy's legal situation is more ambiguous.
* They get a quote for some anti-riot shotguns and a Tank.
* They speak to Walter Mapeli a local state prosecutor about a big local arms dealer, Leonard Minnin who was brokering guns to West Africa (Liberia and Sierra Leone) but couldn't be prosecuted.
* Appears the police found cocaine in his room, he had offered the drug to some girls who kept him company. They also found a bag with a lot of documents in Russian and English.
* The boys are in Ireland brokering guns to Angola
* At the convent school the girls are buying an electro shock baton for $20 but they are a low as $7 each if bought in bulk.
* Again mailed to Doug Nunn in Albion, California from Korea
* Powered by 2 9 volt electric batteries he turns it on, managing to sock himself with it by accident
* Sister Barbara and the girls hold a press conference for the Irish press. The girls present what they have managed to do.
* They display some of the things they have bought.
* Since the press conference the Irish Government have said they are "...preparing new export control legislation, and we hope to have a Bill published later this year..."
* "The new legislation will include provisions for the regulation of arms brokering activities in Ireland, and by Irish citizens abroad..."
* "This will enable Ireland to fulfil it's obligation under the EU Common Position on arms brokering, and will ensure that Ireland is meeting it's EU and national obligations in full...".
wedge In conclusion
* 1. All European countries need brokerage laws.
* 2. There needs to be a catch all clause to cover equipment and weapons not on the list
* 3. Needs to be a law to stop British citizens going abroad to do deals they are not able to do here
* 4. Needs to be a register of dealers and brokers.
wedge Credits
* Reporter: MARK THOMAS
* The Arms Clubs: THE STUDENTS AND TEACHERS FROM SCOLI CHRIOTS RI PRESENTATION SECONDARY SCHOOL, PORTLAOISE. THE STUDENTS AND TEACHERS FROM LORD WILLIAMS'S SCHOOL OXFORDSHIRE.
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* Dubbing Mixer: BRIAN MOSELEY
* Production Coordinator: URSZULA JAROCKI
* Production Manager: KELLY BRETT
* Offline Editors: STEVE BARNES, DENISE PERRIN, SAM ROBERTS, DAVE THRASHER
* Executive Producer: GEOFF ATKINSON
* Associate Producers: SALLY FREEMAN, CAZ STUART
* Director: WILL KNOTT
* © Vera Productions MMVI
wedge Asylum& Immigration Bill
wedge MTCP 1999 special
* Tells labour party members in the audience that he's going to try and persuade them to hand over their membership cards and he will cut them up for them.
* Because the party is about to bring in a bill that will apply to people running away from torture, rape, murder of their families and persecution.
* Force asylum seekers from the housing protection act and force them into poverty
wedge Britishness
* We are a mongrel nation
* For bigots and racists there is no logic
wedge Ann Clwyd - International Development Committee
* Went to Macedonia where there were form being handed out advising people where they might seek asylum and how they could get there
* She asked the UNCHR reps on the spot
* They said every EU country plus the USA have given a quota, but the UK hasn't so it wasn't on the list
* She asked questions and was told it was an administrative error
wedge Internal UN document
* Detailed what countries wanted which specific type of refugees.
* Israelis wanted children of high intelligence
* Americans don't want people with HIV or AIDS
* Australia don't want medical cases
* Britain will take medical cases but only if they are single
* Sounds a bit like cleansing
wedge Kosovo
* Britain agreed to take 161 refugees a month into the war
* Then revised up to a few thousand
* Went to parliament to the committee stage discussion of the bill which the public are allowed to attend
* Talk of making refugees sell their assets before they could claim benefits
* In the committee half the labour people are falling asleep
* Diane Abbot asks Mike O'Brien if they are seriously expecting refugees to sell their jewellery before claiming benefit. He replies "that is just what we intend to do".
* If the tories had suggested this labour would have had a field day.
* Next week Mark returned to the committee with Bea Green who escaped from Nazi Germany on the kinder transport
* Tried to speak to Mike O'Brien, but he legs it
* Bea wanted to tell him what it's like to be a refugee
* No-one leaves their homeland willingly
* Need to be given dignity, not food coupons
wedge New law
* Old law used to be that you had to prove you weren't marrying a British national just for the passport
* Labour have changed that now
* It'll now be law for a registry office registrar to report any asylum seeker that marries a British national that that registrar deems to show an insufficient love within the relationship
* So sent a questionnaire to every MP asking them their nationality, their parents nationality and asking them to mark their parents loving relationship on a scale of 1 to 10.
* Some of them sent it back!
* One only gave his parents 8 out of 10.
* Nick Palmer wrote back saying that it wasn't a proper survey, had no academic foundation, "it is, in fact, a satire."! D'oh.
* So we phoned him about the food vouchers instead of dole money. Only valid for certain outlets and only 70% of what they would have had in cash.
* Then they are refused luxury items such as yoghurt.
* One person wasn't allowed to buy a pair of socks and a pair of pants
* One Kosovan, Ilirjan Memaj came here 2 months before the voucher scheme. Him and his mate live in a hostel sharing their vouchers to economise. When he tried to spend some of his mate's vouchers they called the police.
* He was arrested and told that unless he signed an official caution he would be taken to court.
* Police inform social services who kicked him out of the hostel and refused him vouchers.
* Phoned up Nick Palmer and had a chat about the vouchers.
wedge Daily Mail readers
* For legal and objectivity reasons Mark has to point out that Jack Straw, Mr O'Brien and Tony Blair do a lot of work for minorities.
* Diane Abbot says we're doing this to appeal to readers of the Daily Mail, playing to a middle England agenda
* Mark points out to Daily Mail readers that the voucher system will cost 4 times as much as the cash benefit system.
wedge Mike O'Brien
* Played two away games with him so now play a home game. At his home.
* Take Kurdish dancers and a Guyanan band.
* Police arrive very quickly but let them carry on
* O'Brien comes out and Mark confronts him and shows him the culture and asks him why they are taking away their jewellery and other issues.
* They have a bit of an argument and he leaves in his car.
* He accuses Asylum aid of lying and says that the asylum seekers that win on appeal are included in the figures.
* Home office statistics clearly state "information is of initial determination decisions, excluding the outcomes of appeals or other subsequent decisions".
* In an answer in the House of Lords, Lord Williams says "I regret that equivalent information on grants of asylum or exceptional leave following an initial refusal could only be obtained through the examination of individual case files and therefore at disproportionate cost.
* So who's lying? Mike O'Brien, the Home Office or Lord Williams?
wedge Lots of people aren't given leave to appeal since the labour party have come to power for reasons such as:
* "You state that the men drove you to a place one and a half hours away and told to run before opening fire on you. The Secretary of State considers that if they had intended to kill you they would have done so straight away rather given a chance to escape."
* At an appeal an Algerian was asked "If they really wanted to get you, why did they shoot you in the leg and not the head?"
* "While I noticed the appliant be quietly tearful when recalling her alleged rapes and that of her mother's death as she did so when examined by the doctor, I am unable to ascertain that such tears were not contrived to create a sympathetic impression on me and the doctor."
* Mike O'Brien, when shown a picture of a torture victim said "I just see a man who's thin."
* Mark passes a glass around to collect labour party membership cards
* Got in touch with aids agencies and the Co-Op bank who are so concerned that they are prepared to work with us to form a credit union which will operate a voucher scheme.
* Refugees can put the vouchers in, take loans out, the vouchers will be distributed and used and retain some of their dignity
* Collected a couple of Labour membership cards at the end
wedge Credits
* THE MARK THOMAS COMEDY PRODUCT
* Written and performed by: MARK THOMAS
* Associate Producers: JACK CHESHIRE
* [OTHER CREDITS MISSING]
* Producer: GEOFF ATKINSON
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wedge Mark Thomas' Secret Map Of Britain
wedge AWE Burghfield - N51:21:46 W1:08:28
* Britain is an excessively secretive place
* On the map AWE Burgfhield is not marked, where Britain assembles nuclear weapons, except in the 1976 version whenn it was included by mistake.
* Loads of places around the countryside don't appear on the maps.
* Dr Chris Perkins, Map Curator, Manchester University says there are 2-3,000 such sites across the country.
* Also many others that appear under a very neutral name "works".
wedge M4 Eastbound - N51:27:28 W1:24:43
* Millions of people drive past a sign here saying "Works unit only" but this is a secret junction leading to RAF Welford, the biggest American arms dump in Europe.
* Lets call it junction 8 1/2
wedge HMS Warrior - N51:37:10 W0:24:34
* Mark has been lookin at Britain's secrecy and ompiling his own map of Britain.
wedge State Secret No. 537
* The Government Telephone Preference Scheme
* During a disaster or emergency, 90% of telephones will be cut off.
* Designed for nuclear war but has been used since at such disasters as Piper Alpha, Hungerford, Lockerbie, the Brixton riots and Aintree in 1997.
* Simon Turney, former emergency planning officer describes the Aintree incident where the bomb squad lost their communications as well.
* Exchange lines get closed down so this would stop all internet communication as well
* Tip: Use a public phone box, they won't be disconnected as they are category 1.
wedge Belgravia - N51:29:44 W0:08:54
* Outside Margaret Thatcher's house Mark tells that perversely under our laws you are allowed to see things you wouldn't expect to be able to see.
* He has the plans for her house which you can get from Westminster council which include the location of her safe.
wedge A3102, Wiltshire - N51:30:19 W1:58:48
* Indicators in fields show the location of government oil pipelines that run across the countryside transporting aviation fuel from refineries to military installations.
* There is a publicly available map. This one goes to RAF Lyneham.
* Mark phones John Vardon, Chief Executive, Oil & Pipelines agency and asks if he can tell him the location of this pipeline.
* He says no as any pipeline operator would not wish to give out the precise routes of their pipes.
wedge Corsham - N51:25:50 W2:11:32
* 100 ft underground here is Britain's command & control centre in the event of a nuclear war. All the country's leaders will be rushed there in the case of emergency.
* Can house 5,000 people in this underground city. There is a bakery and a pub.
* It is still kept going with a skeleton staff, how much is it costing to keep it going with the cold war long over?
* The communication system was upgraded in the 1980's.
* You can get their phone number from directory enquiries.
* Mark calls them from his mobile outside the front gates.
* He gets through and asks where the site is.
* Police turn up and tell Mark it doesn't exist.
* Go to the front gates and speak to Lt-Commander Susie Thompson, Press Officer, Royal Navy. Asks to see the Burlington bunker. She says there is no such thing nor is there a command and control centre..
* She says they have underground tunnels but that's all.
wedge Porton Down Chemical Weapons Research Establishment - N51:08:48 W1:41:31
* Chemical weapons tested on forces here.
* Outside the front gates Mark is confronted by security saying they must have authority to film outside.
* Police escort them off the premises.
* Porton down got a license to grow a greenhouse full of dope for experimental use.
wedge Central London - N51.31.00 W0.08.24
* Lots of stories hidden from view under the veil of secrecy that we know the merest details of.
wedge Greenham Common - N51:22:24 W1:16:18
* At RAF Greenham there was a thing called operation overture run by the UK government where they would take soil samples from around Britain's nuclear establishments to work out the traces of radioactive elements in the area.
* By taking comparative soil samples from other countries they could work out where their nuclear bases were.
* In doing this 2 scientists from AWE Aldermaston published a report as they had found that at Greenham common in the 1950's there was a dispersal of uranium.
* They expect this relates to an incident in 1958 when an American plane suspected to be carrying a nuclear weapon crashed and burned there.
* Government denies this.
wedge Wokingham Road, Reading - N51:26:21 W0:54:52
* The most polluted house in Britain stands here. Radiation levels are way above what they should be.
* The owner has had bone marrow and kidney problems
* These are effects of radiological poisoning.
* Bore holes are driven paid by the insurance company.
* There was a Shell oil depot behind the house which was developed for housing in 1990.
* Recorded some of the highest levels of plutonium and uranium in the country. This can only come from a nuclear reactor.
wedge RAF Brize Norton - N51:45:44 W1:34:54
* Where Britain's nuclear deterrent is put onto planes and sent to America where it is transferred to ground transport as it is illegal to fly nuclear material over civilian areas.
* MOD say it's fine as the canisters used are drop tested from heights of 9 metres.
wedge State secret no. 627
* BNFL Alarms Dial 01946 775254
* This phone number puts you through to a recorded message playing all the alarm sounds and their meanings.
wedge State secret No. 323
* If you want the power to intercept peoples emails and internet communications then spend £25 million and build a National Technical Assistance Centre inside MI5's HQ.
* They have black box links to internet service providers for intercept purposes.
* MI6 HQ - N51:27:53 W0:06:54
wedge Whitehall Tunnels
* There are tunnels and a 6 acre citadel under Whitehall.
* You can get access to the cabinet war-rooms
* Labour wanted to re-furbish it, MPs asked how much it was going to cost and why. Government wouldn't say as it was a secret.
* Margaret Thatcher's nuclear bunker ran to an £80 million overspend at £130 million.
wedge State secret no 832
* UK business looking for a competitive advantage can ask the government if your business is important to the British economy
* If they say "yes" you can set up a security liaison office giving you access to MI6 who will give you their secret confidential report which in turn will give you information on the security and political risks of entering a foreign territory.
wedge State secret no. 007
* The Pentel pen - write your message with it. Take a plains sheet of paper and put it over the message and press down.
* Destroy the original message
* Take your secret fluid pen and wash over the plain paper
* The secret message is revealed
wedge Cannes, France
* Home to an ex-MI6 agent, Richard Tomlinson
* MI6 can pay bribes, whereas the foreign office can't
* They pay informants to find out commercial information useful for commercial interests
* British Airways have a link with MI6, BA staff actively recruited by them
* Jobs include captains transporting diplomatic bags
* SAS trained in high altitude parachute drops. Would adopt the call sign of a regular BA passenger jet.
* BA say they wouldn't give permission for this if asked
wedge Rear Admiral Nick Wilkinson
* Secretary of the defence advisory committee (The D-Notice committee).
* Advises the media on what should and shouldn't be included in the press
* Mark gets an interview with him
* Get together twice a year to discuss items of national security.
* Informal, no statutory basis.
* He can't comment on the OSA but thinks it needs looking at as things have moved on since it was last updated.
wedge New GCHQ - N51:54:06 W2:02:50
* FOI act is supposed to help us get information
* Spoke with Norman Baker, MP who agrees that information should be more open. FOI act is "hopeless"
* Baker asked for his MI5 file under the data protection act and he won the case
wedge MI5 HQ - N51:28:47 W0:08:15
* Norman won his case but hadn't received his file
* Went along to MI5 to try and get his file.
* He asks to make an appointment
* He still hasn't seen his file
wedge Southwark council
* Loads of stuff that you are entitled to see
* Like where hazardous waste and radioactive material is stored in your area, unregistered land, register of interests of councillors.
* Any member of the public, for 2 weeks of the year can ask to see any receipts and paperwork about the accounts for that year. Receipts for expenses, etc. They have to let you copy it.
* Some councils are more open than others. Ebbw Vale weren't quite as open as Southwark
* Glenys & Colin Francombe used the act to find out about their council financial records resulting in the conviction of 12 Blaenau Gwent councillors for falsifying their expenses.
* One councillor was involved in an election and claimed he was honest. As soon as he was elected he pleaded guilty as charged.
wedge Balfour Beatty plc - N51:29:41 W0:08 34
* Mark is a Balfour Beatty shareholder
* They have to let you in to inspect the minutes of the AGM and the directors service contracts.
* You can find out what directors earn what for doing what
* Mark tries to get in and does
* Viscount Weir works up to 50% of his time for £150,000 a year plus expenses
* Turns out you don't actually have to be a shareholder to do this for a plc
wedge State secret No. 165
* HM Land registry
* 70% of Britain is owned by less than 1% of the population.
* Don't bother going to the Land Registry
wedge Between 30-50% of land in England and Wales isn't even registered so write to them and get them to change the rules
* HM Land Registry
32 Lincoln's Inn Fields
London
WC2A 3PH
wedge State secret No.020
* BBC National Attack Warning System
* Leave your TV on at all times
* New BBC set up to manage the warnings including special transmitters
wedge State secret No. 459
* On the underground if you hear the message "Would Inspector Sands please go to the operation control room immediately" it means there is a serious problem at the station and it may need to be evacuated.
wedge Duchy of Cornwall
* Prince Charles owns a hotel in Reading
* The Holiday Inn! Not a carbuncle, of course
wedge Notes from an MI5 document
* From a memo about flight 103, the Lockerbie flight
* In 1995, a US intelligence summary, written 3 months before the bombing was released under the US FOI act
* It warned of a terrorist attack and specifically mentioned Pan Am as a likely target.
* Pamela Dix, whose brother died in the bombing, wrote to John Major about this.
* MI5 got involved to try and stop the relatives getting the information they have a legal and moral right to.
* Cannot be confident that appropriate use of information is used.
* Dropped a copy of the note to Jack Straw's office and never got back.
* Britain's secrecy laws are either absurd or more absurd and totally inadequate
* MOD have agreed to put the sites back on the map
wedge Credits
* Presented by: MARK THOMAS
* File Research: VAL EVANS
* Research: SALLY FREEMAN
* Camera: ANDY NEWLYN, SIMON NIBLETT, MIKE PARKER, JAMES SALIGARI
* Sound: PAUL SMITH
* Dubbing Mixer: ELI PERL
* Videotape Editor: OWEN TYLER
* Titles & Design: BLAZKHO
* Production Manager: CATHERINE STRAUSS
* Executive Producer: GEOFF ATKINSON
* Directors: STEVE CONNELLY, MICHAEL CUMMING
* Producer: JACK CHESHIRE
* Made by Vera for Channel Four
* © Channel Four Television Corporation MMII
wedge Thomas Country
wedge Property development
* 1st March 1998 Countryside alliance had a march in London, 300,000 people
* Wasn't really a demonstration, no social worker party banners
* Saying it was a march about the countryside, conservation, rural post offices, etc.
* What they were actually saying was "die townie scum"
* Janet George was the press spokesman for the countryside alliance
* Up against a vast majority supporting a ban on hunting from the public
* She said the strategy was " To wrap up hunting in a wider rural fabric because everyone loves the countryside and hates hunting". Their first priority was to stop the Foster bill
* They invited other countryside groups to join in but just to boost the numbers
* Robin Hanbury Tenison, Co-founder of the countryside alliance said they made no secret of the fact that it was triggered by Michael Foser's bill which was an "anti-hunting, anti-dog-owning bill which was very damaging to the countryside".
* But aren't the other issues important as well? Janet George is on record as saying "People would ring up and say 'what do you think about such-and-such?', and I'd make something up."
* Fair enough strategy, better than having Hunstmen walking around saying "we like killing things".
* Biggest landowners in the country were on the march. Not a pro-hunting march, also about other issues like rural poverty.
* Released a single hoping it would get to number 1 sung by George Bowyer, a real country boy and Lord Denham's son.
* Not keen to play up the class interest. Who owns the land and what do they do with it.
* The great and the good claim to be guardians of the land, but that's not really true.
* Two communities in South Wales with lovely land between them, with lots of wildlife. Pontypool park estates is going to build 1200 new homes on the land.
* They are owned by the Hanbury Tenison family. He claims he has nothing to do with it, it's his brother's estate.
* Edward Duke is the ex president f the countryside alliance. In 1996 he built a £2 million factory on a green field site. He claimed the site was "green field in a business sense of the word, not a countryside alliance sense".
* Created a character "Farmer Mark" who used to work in the city, made a lot of money and has now bought a farm.
* Went along to a country fair and chatted to the countryside alliance people. They organise shooting and fishing parties for children from 6 years upwards.
* Staged a debate at the Newbury fair, persuaded George Monbiot to debate with farmer Mark. Mark is playing to a home crowd.
* Monbiot punts in favour of the right to roam and a healthy debate ensues
* 1996 farmers profits rose by 29%, 1995 cereal farmers profits went up by 138%.
* Many farms been bought up by large corporations.
wedge Have lost
* 40% of fenland
* 95% of meadow land
* 300,000 km of hedgerows
* 20% of all scheduled ancient monuments
* Ben Gill, president of the National Farmers Union argues that if we have lost so much why do people flock into the countryside at the weekend
* Mark visits the South Downs with Dave Bangs a local wildlife expert who explains that there is none of the wildlife there that there used to be.
* Farmers can get subsidies to keep downland, but they get bigger subsidies and farmers can plough up down land and then claim subsidy for turning it back into down land.
* The common agricultural policy (CAP) subsidises the big farms.
* £90 a hectare to grow Maize, £250 to grow cereals, £225 to grow oilseed rape and £325 for set-aside.
* Ben Gill says that hedgerows are being re-planted. Of course, farmers are subsidised for doing this.
* He does admit that they've got things wrong in the past.
* £6.5 billion pounds a year the taxpayer pays to subsidise farming
* Countryside alliance doesn't support the right to roam, they support the country landowners association's proposal for voluntary access agreements.
* Bertie Bows of the country landowners association says "We don't want all and sundry roaming across our land, especially not criminals, drug pushers and vandals."
* What the landowners really want is exclusivity. The NFU are now lobbying to ban subversive activities such as kite flying and picnics.
* Back at the Newbury debate Farmer Mark suggested centrres of excellence rather than wholesale conservation. But it really kicked off when they got onto fox-hunting.
* They claim that fox-hunting is pest control.
* New Forest council paid £7,800 attending hunts and dealing with queries. The local hunt killed just 7 foxes that year.
* £1,100 per fox. Doesn't sound very efficient.
* Went down there in a Reliant Robin with a fox's head as a professional pest control company and handed out some leaflets saying they could do them for £50 a time.
* The huntsmen were confused and not very interested.